Navigating money as a mom of four, with Sara Peterson

From Double Income, No Kids to being a mum of 4 changes things a bit. So we’re chatting money dynamics and working through differences with money in relationships.

AND we get REAL about MLM (Multi Level Marketing / Network Marketing) for women and moms.

Plus, chatting about money healing wounds and breaking down money blocks that are stopping you from getting ahead.

You can find Sara at https://www.instagram.com/mlmmom/

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Simone Mercer Huggins:
I spent the last 10 years learning from the most brilliant minds in money, wealth, and investing to take myself from $20,000 in debt to a multi six figure investment portfolio. He don't know where to start. I get it being that too, but you just being here means you're part of a group of driven women changing the game and taking control. So join in and follow along as they share the secrets towards more money, more investing and more freedom. My name is Simone Mercer, Huggins, and welcome to ms. Wealthy's. Kiss my money podcast.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Amazing. Thank you so much for coming on Sarah. It's so awesome to have you on the podcast. Well, thanks for having me. Um, so I wanted to quickly start off with a couple of rapid fire questions if there's just full, quick ones to get us warmed up before we did that. Okay. Uh, so first want, where did you grow up? Um, so I grew up primarily in the state of Alaska and the United States. Um, my mother worked was a government employee, and so we lived in Arizona for a while, then Alaska. And that's where I lived when I moved away from home. Okay. Amazing. What's your favorite quote? Oh my, I don't know. I don't know. My favorite quote is any right? Yeah, there's too many good ones. Oh, it was just quoted something to someone recently. I can't remember my mind's gone blank. Okay.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
We can come back to that one. Number three, name, one thing. You'd love spending money on traveling really nice shoes. Yeah. That common ones and final, what does money mean to you? Money? Um, just interesting. Yeah, money is just to me, it's just like an ability to, it's a currency to exchange for something that I want in life. Um, so yeah, that's an interesting question. I know it's different for everybody, but um, yeah, money itself. Isn't like a huge motivator to me. Um, but the things that it can get for me, that's a huge motivator for me. Yeah, exactly. So it's an energy exchange for all the things that you want really. Yeah. Yeah. No, I love that. I think that that's probably, you know, that's, that's certainly how I see it. Um, and there's no right or wrong. It's just, you know, I think the more we talk about it and what it actually means for us, the more it makes it like, Oh, okay.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
It's just not this thing we have to obtain. It's actually the thing that gets us what we want. Yeah, for sure. Um, okay. So tell me a little bit about you. I know obviously that you're a mom of four and you, uh, you know, kind of launching into your own business as well and helping others do the same. And I kinda wanted to really pick your brain and talk to you about obviously being a mom of four, you run a busy household and I want to talk to you about being a mom and, uh, you know, about money and balancing that. And you know, for a period of time, I am guessing, I don't know this for sure, but maybe you were living on a single income in the family and kind of, you know, what that's like for you and how that changed. Maybe your relationship with money too.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah, for sure. Um, okay. So yeah, a little bit about me. I am a stay at home. Mom of four. I have been married for 19 years. Um, I was trained as a nurse and then after maybe my second child was about one, I decided to stay home full time. Um, about 12 years ago I helped my husband start his service business. He's a dentist. Um, and so he is the primary breadwinner. He's the single earner of our family. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's kind of, um, where we're at there. And so it's just been a more recent thing where I haven't wanted to go back into nursing, although I loved it. I love, love loved it, but I've been really kind of bitten by this entrepreneurial bug, you know, I want to like create something else. Yeah, absolutely. And so how old are your kids? So I have children, they range from 11 to three. Okay.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Busy mom. And how did, how was that for you? You know, I kind of want to know how it was in terms of transitioning from double income, no kids to you being the stay at home. Mom, did that change your relationship with money, how you felt about it? You know, I know that some, for some moms, it can be a struggle because it feels like they are not earning anything. Even though they have a full time job, AKA being a mother, which is probably the most important job in the world. Uh, but you know, it changes the money dynamics for some women it's not as healthy because it can be a power struggle and that's the bad side of it. But then for others, they have a really healthy relationship and see themselves as well, obviously pivotal. And just because they're not earning anything doesn't mean anything. What was that like for you? Yeah,

Sara Peterson:
So I mean, I, I, you know, I know people come at it from different ways. So I came from a home where I had a parent who stayed home. I, my mother worked and my dad stayed home and they had a great relationship. Um, it didn't affect their relationship that he was staying home and that she was supporting everyone that helped. And I married somebody who also had a stay at home parent. Um, and so we kind of knew that's where we wanted to go. Especially while our children were small, we both loved that. And we wanted to provide that for our children. So we, we knew that going into it. And then I have married just this fantastic person who really does make me feel like I provide so much value. Um, so that is extremely helpful. And I know that is not always the case.

Sara Peterson:
I think it has to do with the way we were raised as well and what our expectations were. Um, so that has helped me a lot in relation with like money because you're right. Like, I, I don't bring in money anymore. I, I have to. Yeah. There's just a little bit where you kind of let that go and I actually let it go. I let it go. Um, gradually. So I went from working full time with no children. So then part time, and then I work like really once or twice a month and then I didn't work anymore. So my income really did taper down at the exact time that my husband's income was really increasing so that I feel like ease into the transition. And then I've always been involved in things like paying the bills, the household budget I've even helped him with his budget and bills at his office.

Sara Peterson:
So there is definitely like a team work there. Yeah. Right. Well, I'm not going to say it's all roses either. Um, because there are, there have been many times where we've like, I feel like we should spend our, our money one way we should spend it another way. And then, you know, the topic will be like, well, I mean, he never throws it in my face that it's his, you know, he earned it, but I will say probably the way we invest our money, it's a little more weighted for him like his decision. Um, so we've kind of had to like talk about that and just kind of work through those sorts of things. Um, but for the most part, he was pretty supportive of the things that I need to do. You know, it's, as far as money goes, like I, I realized not long ago, a couple of years ago, I said, you know, I, at this point in our life spent all of the money. So if you were to come and tell me, but all the money, you know, if my husband were to say that to me, that's true. I do spend all the money. I didn't have to rebuild through that emotionally for myself because I am, I do spend all the money. I pay all the bills, all clothes, I buy all the food. I do know. I mean, I'm physically spending off money. So to kind of like, you know, make sure we were looking at it appropriately and realizing that this was okay and

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah, yeah. In the world. Yeah. No, but I think that that's, um, it's really funny because, you know, before I became a full time investor in my corporate career was in marketing and, you know, kind of realizing early on in my career that like all of the marketing was geared towards an aimed at women because women are the predominant spenders. Like they are the ones that hold the purse is like, even though, you know, even if, even in a family where they are, the stay at home mom or the male is the primary bread winner, the women still spend the money because the other ones out shopping that, you know, and they tend to, you know, as a generalization, um, lead the way in terms of buying for kids and stuff like that.

Sara Peterson:
Yeah. Yeah. It's so true. You know, my husband and I, uh, run his dental office. It's for families, it's an office for families and we absolutely market to the mothers and the wives and the grandmothers, because they're the ones who decide

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah. We like to make the spend spending decisions. And so it's funny that, yeah, so much of this kind of money stuff it's feels so much more complicated for women, even though we do most of the spending and transactions, um, which is really, really crazy. So what was the, what was some of the, you know, I'm curious, and I think that the audience would probably be curious to know too, what is some of the money

Sara Peterson:
Issues that you, you worked through? Um, you know, I don't know how much of it, I don't know where this came from. I feel like it's part of how I grew up white versus my husband. So my husband grew up in a family where money was talked about all the time. And, um, it was a huge motivator to his parents environment where he grew up. Right. Um, and then I grew up in a home where neither of my parents had ever been wealthy. It wasn't one of their goals. Um, and they had, uh, they just wanted stability. So my mother worked for the government and had a very great job, um, and was very stable, had all the benefits retirement built in and she gained most of her re like the reward. Then she had a great job. So obviously it provided for her family, but that reward was really significant and in work that she was doing.

Sara Peterson:
So that's kinda how I grew up. Um, and so we always, I grew up with a tighter budget than my husband did. His father was an entrepreneur business owner. Um, so we kind of came into this marriage where I was very with the amount of talk about money. I decided it was boring. I thought it was rude. I thought it was impolite. Um, you know, to the point where we had to train my husband, I'm like, you know, when people ask you like how much you make, it's really none of their business, you know, those sorts of things. Um, and so like we came into this marriage and, you know, kind of figuring out, figuring those out. So I think I, I came to this just the way I was raised, where I just didn't talk about money. Um, my parents are, self-proclaimed not great at handling their money, which is part of the reason they had their government job because the retirement, they didn't have to like figure that out.

Sara Peterson:
Right. Yeah. So anyway, all those things put together. So we did definitely have to work through some things. One of the things was changing. So we kind of had to, as a couple figure out, I had to, well, I'll talk about me. I had to work towards realizing the talk about money. Wasn't always impolite when I was doing in essence. And this has taken me many, many years. Like I said, I've been married 10 years. Um, what I was doing was because it wasn't something I wanted to talk about. I was making it like a taboo, right. It almost giving it negative attention. Um, so I've kind of had to work on that quite a bit. I've also, um, but then I've also been able to realize that there were some social things, you know, that you can put people at ease socially if money and the costs of things.

Sara Peterson:
Aren't really the topic of your general conversation with like average, like family dinner. Yeah. Right. Extended family dinner, you know, Christmas or whatever. So why my husband and I worked on that together, but I've definitely had to work through things. I find myself because of my experiences and I, and for a little bit of background. So my husband and I have been married a long time and I put him through school, we got married. I was 20 and he was 22. And so he finished his bachelor's degree and went on to dental school. And I worked through all, I finished my education as well as working multiple jobs right through that. So we definitely have had times of financial lack, you know? Yeah. Um, I've never called ourselves poor by any means, but I would definitely say there were times where we didn't have any money left that week, you know?

Sara Peterson:
So, um, yeah. So a few people can relate to that. I think we've all been there, different break points in our life and I'm grateful for those experiences. Um, but yeah, I kind of have learned that I have a tendency. And so I don't know if it's the baggage that I carry with me from previous experiences, um, that I am more apt to buy very inexpensive things because of the emotionally, it is much easier for me to, to buy something less expensive and then buy, buy a whole bunch of it and feel like that I'm like, am I getting a really good deal? Or that I'm being frugal right. Where my husband has taught me over the years about, and he loves to shop, but he is very restrained, but when he buys something, it is very expensive. Oh, okay. Right.

Sara Peterson:
And that took me a long time to come to terms with, and I still really struggle with it now. We don't, like, I will admit in the beginning, we did fight about it. Um, cause I didn't understand it. I was young, but I do understand now the value of things, um, quite often you're paying for longevity in an item or an experience, but, um, but yeah, I still find myself, I still fight myself, you know, um, to not, you know, necessarily I call it nickel and diming myself. Um, you know, you know, and then we'll look at this, the, the, the, you know, the account balances and my husband will say, well, honey, I mean, you've spent just as much. I mean, it wasn't, you weren't saving money. And I know, and not, I usually refer to that when I'm like in an anxious place or if I'm struggling with just like my, you know, where, how comfortable I am with money right then. So,

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah. Right. And you know, it's, it's, it's interesting. Like I have always spoken to, you know, my audience and my students and my members that work with me that working on your money stuff is not a onetime thing. It's kinda like, you know, you don't go to the gym once and then call yourself fit for life. Be able to run them on. That would be amazing though, would met, but you know, like, so it's, it's a lifelong habit really. And you know, your money mindset and how you think about money and how you approach it and managing it and being better at it. It's also a life long learning lesson. And the more you talk about it, the more you work on it, the better you get.

Sara Peterson:
Yeah. Yeah. So that's so interesting that you say that. I hope you don't mind if I jump in, but interesting. So now I have had, these kids are like almost 12 years and I have different social group than I did before a bunch of moms and peer group. And it is interesting that money isn't a topic, right. It it's, I don't know, as I'm kind of evolving now, it's just starting up my own personal, like

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Muriel journey. Yeah. And the people that I'm, the people that I'm using like that are my mentors and coaches and so forth are very open about finances learning. So like that's so eye opening because that is not the environment that I grew up in and be that I'm in right now socially. So it's, I'm learning quite a bit, um, about just, you know, my thoughts on money and even just how much you talk about it or what you talk about. Right. Yeah, totally. And, you know, I think, I mean, it's so cliche, but you are the average of the five people you spend most time with. And when that group of people, you know, whether it's your mom group or whoever it is, are not talking about money and not talking about investing and not talking about spending habits or having a healthy money mindset or creating wealth, or, you know, even like healthy habits around money and it not being taboo, then you automatically start developing and adapting to your surroundings.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
And if, if that group of people, uh, Hey, we don't talk about money or Hey, you know, that's taboo or whatever it is then unfortunately that suppresses who you are and like what you can do. And like you said, when you have those mentors that you talk about it more with it expands your mind, it opens up your horizons, you see more possibility and then massively changes what you see and what you actually do and go out and create in the world. Yeah, I totally agree. So, so with that group, you know, I know that we really, really, really briefly touched on it before. And you mentioned it and I really want to talk about this a little bit because it also ties into what you do and you help kind of moms, you know, step into that. If they want to move into something on the side, maybe they don't want to go into work full time, like mentioned that career job.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
And I've spoken about side hustles a little bit with a couple of, um, of a guest on the podcast, but I really want to talk to you about the kind of, you know, fitting it in, in terms of being a mom. Cause it's a different, it's a different approach, particularly when you still want to prioritize your family and you want to prioritize your role as a mom. Right? Absolutely. And you mentioned, and I want to talk about this MLM that as a mom, you don't have to go into MLM. There are other opportunities out there. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, so I actually am starting with MLM and I, I, I like it and I think it's, I'm trying, I'm trying it out because I'm trying something different. And so I'm excited. So the challenge, right. So, but it isn't the right fit for everyone. Interestingly enough,

Sara Peterson:
I do feel that women who stay home or who work part time or her moms, um, they are quite often really great, um, targets for people to be, try to sell their MLM businesses and were pitched quite often like, Oh, this would be great. Just tell your friends, just tell your mom, friends, just host the party. Um, just put it on your social media, you know, just because you're home and you got, you know, you just have all these other moms who are like, be interested in whatever, you know, face cream or whatever. That's a terrible, first of all, that was a terrible marketing strategy strategy. Yeah. It's such a terrible marketing strategy and I'm like, we're just setting these women up for failure. Um, and then, and then on top of all that there's no training. They're just like, just go and tell everyone about it.

Sara Peterson:
And then you fail the time. Then you have you really feel about yourself. Like, and how do you feel about your ability to make money? Um, so anyway, I really I'm like on a little crusade to kind of help break that. And I would love to, um, become more successful at myself and help other people. But I there's a lot of other opportunities, I think, especially now, um, you know, we're, we can just work with each other across the world, either opportunities for people say home. So I'm a huge proponent if at all possible, um, for a parent to stay home with their child. And I, and I side note about me is I actually homeschool my four children. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I homeschooled my four kids and you love it. And it's turned out to be thus far really fantastic for us.

Sara Peterson:
But I do know, um, you know, in the homeschool community, um, I've heard over the years, people say, Oh, I'd love to homeschool my children, but I have to work or I'm a single mom. Um, and, and that is a terrible position to be put in as a, as a parent. But you want to give your child what you would feel is the best, but then at the same time, you are responsible for putting food on the table and paying the rent. Right. And I get that. I mean, I have that same responsibility as well. I just happen to be in a situation where we can work it out. Um, so I would absolutely love to help, um, parents, moms and dads who want to stay home, whether it's with homeschooling their kids or not that, um, to be able to stay home and work and have a good income, either a part time income, um, to get you through kind of a tricky spot or, you know, if you wanted to have a full time income from home, I think it's possible. I just think that the way it's presented to a lot of people, it's really overwhelming, very technical, um, or not given proper training. And so, yeah, so I kind of want to break into that and just help people be able to like, feel that they're providing the best for their family, both life experience and with finances. Yeah. Right.

Sara Peterson:
Absolutely. Um, and it's interesting, like, I mean, and for those who don't know what MLM is, it's essentially multilevel marketing network marketing, you know, as a company it's like young living a sauna. Um, I said, genics, you know, I mean, that's some of the [inaudible], so those are, those are the, um, and it's definitely not for everybody for sure. Um, and that's another thing too, in that particular field, people are like, Oh, just anybody it'd be fine. Anyone's good. And of course that is not the case as with any sort of profession. So I think that also will set up a lot of people for discouragement and the setback and failure. Um, that's unnecessary. So yeah, absolutely.

Sara Peterson:
Yeah, no, you go, Oh, sorry. So you asked me a little bit about managing my time, which is a big thing for people who are at home already running a business and home life, their children are busy. Um, you know, life is just busy. I am gonna be 100% honest. I have not figured it out. Does anyone ever really? No, I don't think so. But there have learned a few things, um, that I like started implementing over the last few years. And one is to like let, to like start to realize what are things I feel are very important, but that they're important because like a social pressure that's being put on me. Um, for instance, how clean I keep my home, right? How manicured is my lawn? What kind of car do I drive? Um, what school do my kids go to brand of clothes?

Sara Peterson:
You know, you know, where do I go shopping? That sort of thing. Yeah. And those, you know, those sorts of things is really important to me. Then, then that's fine. Then I just need to know I've had to like, like make a priority list and be like, okay, this is kind of a social thing. Is it really important to me? And that has helped me a lot figure out, okay, well, that's not really important to me. It's just something socially that's being pushed on me. So I'm gonna drop it. I'm gonna just let it go at me. Um, so that's one thing that has helped me kind of eliminate other eliminate other things. And then another one is just, um, I've had to really come to terms with the fact that I am going to have a different lifestyle than others. So I'm not just taking like a different way to work or differently to educate my kids.

Sara Peterson:
I'm thinking actually a whole different lifestyle. And that is something that a person has to really come to terms with because of that, I don't go to lunch with my friends. I, I reserve certain times of the day where I am specifically giving to working on my business or that I'm specifically giving to my children. Um, and I've had to like be really forward actually with some people who would really pressure maybe like, well, why can't you do this? Why can't you do this for the day? I'm like, I just, I already have things important to me happening now is hard and that's a hard thing to do. So anyway, so those are some of the things I've done that have helped me thus far. Um, with that being said, um, when I'm S when you're staying home in my situation, no day's ever the same.

Sara Peterson:
It was different than I was going to work outside. The home work started at a certain time every day and it ended, and then there were certain obligations, you know, that were kind of plannable. Whereas now my days don't look the same cause kids just are different like every day. So I've had to really just try to be flexible or not. It's kind of hard cause I'm definitely like task oriented. I'm like, okay, let's get this done. And like, feel so much like energy from like accomplishing something. And sometimes it takes a few weeks or of battle with myself to be like, okay, Sarah, is this really important? Is this part of the goal? You know?

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah. And I think like, I think a big really, it comes down to your values. Like basically what you were saying is kind of what you value, you know, and which is really just, what's important to you and that affects your money and your time and the time that you spend, you know, on things as well. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, cool. So we, we touched on this kind of like briefly before, before we like kind of started, started jumping on, um, we have both done some, I mean, I have done a lot of work around my money mindset, my belief systems in many, many areas from every, like you name it, I probably have done it because for me, it's just, you know, it's like that onion, you peel back another layer and you get better at it and you get stronger at it. And there's always something new to discover. And we both found out that we've both done energy healing around money. Tell me your experience around that.

Sara Peterson:
Yeah. Be happy to, she was actually kind of recent and it's something that I think I will probably continue to do, um, from time to time. Um, I discovered, uh, do you want me to drop names or no? Does the woman, she, her name is Carol Tuttle. She's an feeler and she has a healing clinic online. Um, and it's a membership site where you go and there's all these different healing. Um, you go through modules. Yeah. So I did hers and she had one on money and I knew I was feeling, I was feeling really stressed about money. And my husband had saying why. And I said, I don't know. I don't know why I'm feeling stressed about money. I didn't want to pay the bills. Even though I had the money, like I was afraid to like, let it go. Um, I was just feeling really stressed.

Sara Peterson:
And so I said, I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try this. And it was really helpful. I did. So I did online with, with her and her guidance and her daily practices and we do different, um, energy techniques. Um, you know, on the different days it'd be different, but a lot of the visualization and affirmations just really helped me kind of, I felt a lot calmer about letting she talked a lot about what experiences we bring with us from our past. Right? Yes. And what are some of our natural tendencies are, um, and just ways to like, relax about, um, money and it just brought to mind a lot of things I'd never really thought about before, about what I thought about money, what my friends around me thought about money, um, that sort of thing. And so it was very, very helpful. And so I finished it, it was fine.

Sara Peterson:
I, you know, was there was a beginning and an end. And when I was done, I felt so much better. And I feel like the time for me to do it again, just something that I'm going to continue to do over and over. Um, uh, especially now that, so I did that actually before I started, um, my online journey for my own business. And so now I feel like I'm like, I'm getting going. And I feel like, okay, I knew that again, that support again, to kind of help relax, you know, just help me relax and help me just come to terms with what I'm actually feeling about money.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah, no, I, I love that. I, it, you know, I think it's really important to approach it from all angles and find them. I find the approach that works for you and B find the person that works for you. And, you know, for some people that is visualization for some it's hypnotherapy for summits and energy healing, it can be mantras and affirmations that, you know, there were so many things. Some of it is literally just kind of mindset I could work and journaling and, you know, there were so many angles that you can hit it. And I think, but, you know, I think it's really important that you do it in a way that works for you because, you know, especially at different times in your life, it's been a hit totally. And you will always have different experiences. Um, you know, throughout our life. It's not like it's one thing we learned so much from our parents growing up. And there were also things that happen throughout your life. Whether you get screwed over, whether you get into a massive money, winful, you know, the different people you meet, you might get triggered. Like, um, yeah. So that's, it's really awesome that you've found something that helps calm you because having, especially a high degrees of stress around money can affect us too. Like, I mean, stress is one of those crazy things. It does not say things to our bodies

Sara Peterson:
Essentially, physically.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah. And you know, even in relationships, it's like, depending on what you know, who you read and who does research, it's either the number one or at least the top two reasons that people split up or get divorced.

Sara Peterson:
No. Yeah, it is, you know, it's so interesting over the last five years, my heart, I don't know how to explain it just the way my life has been going in. My heart experiences have really been opening up to wanting to, um, to travel more and to do more service, um, with my family. And, and it became very apparent to me very quickly as these feelings started coming, um, that as long as I am not financially free to do so, I really can't do everything that I desire. Um, and so that really started getting me on this journey to like figure out what my feelings are about money and as this. And as I realized over the years, um, that actually this money can be really, really great thing. Like what, how, like it's not a selfish, I guess I had to get over that.

Sara Peterson:
Like, am I being selfish by wanting to amass money to become wealthy, to become financially free and the way I want to be, is there anything wrong with my goal of having a private jet? Um, and it's all about what my motivators are and I felt like they're good. I feel like my motivators are, are good to me. And so, yeah, that's been a journey for me to just to have these very like big financial goals, um, and realize that they actually give me freedom to do better, to do more, to like do good in the world. And so, as I realized that even my husband, like I've been talking to him recently, I'm like, look, if you, you know, as we get, you know, if we can get you closer to retirement and become financially free, cause he's kind of heading into retirement years, you know, as we do that, it allows you to be able to use this amazing skill and talent that you have developed, uh, to serve right now. You have to use it to like make money. Um,

Simone Mercer Huggins:
And there's nothing wrong with making money, but wouldn't it be so great if we've got to a point where you could use it to, to be, you know, to serve others. Um, anyway, so yeah, it's definitely, that's a whole angle on my feelings about money that have really been changing me a lot over the years. Yeah. And I think you used a word before that is so true. And I feel like comes up for so many of us, particularly women in that is, you know, selfish and like going off to things like a lot of money and not falling into that societal trap that you know of the conditioning of some group of some, well, a lot of groups of people that think that rich people are greedy and not having a lot of money is selfish. And it couldn't be further from the truth because money is just the ability to amplify who you are.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
And if that is giving and contributing to the world, then you can just do that on another level. And that is only, that can only be a good thing. So yeah, I think getting out of that selfish mindset in hand to hand with that now as a parent, I'm trying to teach my kids a little differently. Right. Children, whatever their financial situations will be in the future. I don't want my children to look at others who have more or different or less, um, to think of them in terms of that being like I'm some sort of moral indicator. Right, right. I wouldn't want my kids to get somebody who had more and thinking they're automatically are selfish. They must've been selfish to get that. Right. It was less like something is wrong with them. They're not doing enough. I, you know, I think that is something that I'm trying to be conscious about because I don't want my kids falling into that trap, that societal thinking, um, about having more selfish.

Simone Mercer Huggins:
Yeah. No completely. And that also, it has no indication on who, you know, how good or bad you are as a person. Yeah. Because not everyone, you know, not everyone wants to create a rich life, meaning financially rich life. And that's totally okay. Like, um, you know, you got to do what fits you. Yeah. Um, amazing. So we kind of have circled around, but if people want to find out more of, kind of about what you do and how you help and are starting to help other women, you know, investigate and start on that entrepreneur journey, where can they find you? So right now I am just on Instagram, favorite social media platform. Right. And my handle is at M L M N O N mom MLM.

Sara Peterson:
Um, that is where I am. And right now I'm sharing my journey, um, of what I am doing to like establish my, um, business and my entrepreneurial endeavors. And I am starting it through network marketing. It is my end goal. My end goal is something bigger, um, for, um, a community of parents. But, um, it's definitely my training ground. So I'm excited just to share the journey as I go along. And my plans for this year also involve a YouTube channel. And so that will all be, um, shared the whole, uh, you know, that will all be shared on my Instagram account. So that is where you can find me amazing. So yeah, so people can tune in, see how you're going, see what it's like and maybe pick your brain if they want to get into it too. Yeah. Amazing. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Sarah, for coming on and sharing about, you know, your life and being really open about that too. Thanks for having me. Yeah, you're welcome. All right. Beautiful. Well, I will talk to you soon. Alrighty.